Episode notes

On this week’s episode, hosts Tre’vell Anderson and jarrett hill make a call back to Tre’vell’s Dis/Honrable Mention of Ncuti Gatwa’s British Vogue’s Pride Issue feature in Ep #174. In the issue, Gatwa claims he chooses not to label himself as queer, which poses the question: has Pride rebranded (again) to fit those who do not identify as queer?

But first, jarrett and Tre’vell discuss the state of employment, or rather unemployment, in media considering the rise of publication layoffs, like Buzzfeed News with 15% staff layoffs and Insider with 10% , just this past April. With many more platforms following the same trend, the future of journalism looks uncertain. And later, we get a history lesson on the very first Queen of Drag.

Mentioned In The Episode 

Ncuti Gatwa in the Pride Issue of British Vogue

Smithsonian Magazine, William Dorsey Swann, the First Self – Proclaimed “Queen of Drag”

We See Each Other: The Podcast

DIS/Honorable Mentions 


DM: Amy Schumer’s new Netflix special “Emergency Contact”

HM: Aisha Harris’s new book “Wannabe: Reckonings With The Pop Culture That Shapes Me”


HM: Peacock original film,  Praise This 

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Sometimes the people, places, and things we love don’t love us back. We’re fans, but we also have some ANTI- feelings toward them. Every week on FANTI, journalists Tre’vell Anderson and jarrett hill bring their pop culture and political expertise to things we must stan and stand up against. FANTI is a place where nuance reigns supreme with energetic, complicated, and sometimes difficult conversations that bring deep knowledge and thoughtful perspective to the things we love and rage about, from the White House to the Real House(wives).


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