Episode notes
Our regularly scheduled season three journey has resumed. Janet Varney and John Hodgman are ready to visit the granite state of New Hampshire!

First of all, how about that motto? It’s certainly tough as granite! And it’s one those from the state take a lot of pride in. But how does it compare to some of the other great ones that have been discussed on this show?
Plus, there’s an abundance of symbols to look at, including the dangerous romance of the state spider. They’ll explain.
Then, Janet talks to not one, but TWO figures in New Hampshire: One retired teacher whose class helped establish the state beverage… and one state representative who aims to establish more symbols soon.
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- Sheila Nichols
- Lily Foss
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Listening to E Pluribus Motto is like taking a road trip with friends Janet Varney and John Hodgman. In each episode, they spotlight one state and chat about its motto, bird, beverages, songs, and–occasionally–muffins. Plus, you’ll hear from residents and guests whose lives or work have been inspired by that state. This podcast is a celebration of regional culture and an homage to the love we all seem to have for the place we call home. Pack your snacks and jump on in!
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