Episode 30: North Dakota- “Liberty and Union Now and Forever, One and Inseparable”

Episode 30

18th August 2026

It’s the season finale of E Pluribus Motto! Janet Varney and John Hodgman close out their journey with a trip to the rough rider state, North Dakota We’ve once again stumbled onto a state with two mottos. One of them is in line with some of the others that we’ve heard on this show so […]

Episode notes

It’s the season finale of E Pluribus Motto! Janet Varney and John Hodgman close out their journey with a trip to the rough rider state, North Dakota

We’ve once again stumbled onto a state with two mottos. One of them is in line with some of the others that we’ve heard on this show so far; the other is not only much better, but it was adopted in 2011.

We’re also joined by author, essayist and native North Dakotan, Chuck Klosterman who tells us about some of the gems of his home state.

Finally, we’ll officially list out the states that will be a part of season four… including one that is absolutely not a state.

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Produced by Julian Burrell.

Senior Producer at MaxFun is Laura Swisher.

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  • Chuck Klosterman

About the show

Listening to E Pluribus Motto is like taking a road trip with friends Janet Varney and John Hodgman. In each episode, they spotlight one state and chat about its motto, bird, beverages, songs, and–occasionally–muffins. Plus, you’ll hear from residents and guests whose lives or work have been inspired by that state. This podcast is a celebration of regional culture and an homage to the love we all seem to have for the place we call home. Pack your snacks and jump on in!

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Cover art by Paul G. Hammond
Music by Zach Burba

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