Desus Nice, The Kid Mero, and Walter Murch

27th February 2017

This week, public media legend Ray Suarez sits in for Jesse. He sits down with Desus Nice and The Kid Mero to discuss their new Viceland TV show, Desus & Mero. Then, sound and film editor Walter Murch stops by to talk about editing some of the most iconic films in the cannon, and the new book profiling his education in astrophysics.

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Ray Suarez guest hosts this week.

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Desus Nice and The Kid Mero on their new Viceland TV show Desus & Mero
Desus and Mero have worked together since 2013 when they started their first podcast Desus vs. Mero but have actually known each other since going to summer school together in The Bronx. Both Mero and Desus have huge Twitter followings, where they first cultivated a rapport. Eventually, they transferred it to podcasting. After their first podcast ended, they started The Bodega Boys which has a similar vibe and is everything that makes podcasts great; improvised, diverse, hilarious, and irreverent. Their success in podcasting has lead to Vice tapping them to host their flagship late-night show on Viceland, the new television network. It’s called Desus & Mero, of course.
In for Jesse Thorn, public media legend Ray Suarez talk with Desus and Mero about their new TV show and the differences between being funny on twitter and producing a TV show or podcast. They tell us why they talk about race so much, and give us a look into what it was really like to grow up in Bronx in the 1980’s.


You can watch Desus & Mero weeknights at 11 p.m. on Viceland. You can also find The Bodega Boys podcast on iTunes or wherever you download podcasts.

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Walter Murch talks sound and film editing and the new book about him, Waves Passing in the Night
Three time Academy Award winning sound designer and film editor Walter Murch has been a part of Hollywood scene for over 50 years. One of his most frequent collaborators is Francis Ford Coppola – he worked on Apocalypse Now and The English Patient. In his free time, though, he does something completely different: astrophysics. He’s particularly mesmerized by Bode’s Law, the almost 250 year old theory that explains the spacing and orbit of the planets. Murch is the subject of Lawrence Weschler’s new book Waves Passing in the Night, which chronicles Murch’s education in astrophysics.
Murch tells Ray about how the move from analog to digital machines changed the game, his obsession with science and astrophysics, and what he learned about sound editing from Marlon Brando.
Waves Passing In The Night is out now.

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  • The Kid Mero
  • Desus Nice
  • Walter Murch

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