Charlie Wilson of the Gap Band and Mark Frauenfelder

Episode 74

Charlie Wilson made hits in the 80s as the frontman of the Gap Band. In the 90s he was homeless on the streets of LA. Then, he turned it all around. Jesse talks with Charlie Wilson about his astonishing career with The Gap Band and his later collaborations with Snoop Dogg, Tupac and more. Plus hear stand-up comedy from The Daily Show’s Al Madrigal, culture picks from Mark Frauenfelder, and which Mountain Goats song you should listen to immediately.

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Mark Frauenfelder Recommends: “Good Dog” and Super Durak

Mark Frauenfelder, founder of BoingBoing and host of the Gweek podcast joins us to weigh on his latest obsessions in the form of geeky pop culture. This time, it’s Graham Chaffee’s Good Dog and the virtual version of Russian card game Super Durak, for iOs.

Chaffee’s book, out this week, is a tour through a stray dog’s life as he weighs a life of independence against the security of being a house pet, exploring the psychology of dogs in a vein similar to White Fang. Frauenfelder also suggests downloading the Super Durak app for a card game with a unique twist — there are no winners.

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Charlie Wilson: Creating Funk Jams with the Gap Band, Overcoming Addiction, and Recovering a Career

From his years as the frontman of the funk-R&B group the Gap Band, to singing hooks for rappers like Snoop Dogg and Kanye West, to his solo career recording R&B hits in his airy tenor, Charlie Wilson has been all about music. He grew up in Tulsa, Oklahoma, the son of a Pentecostal preacher and a music minister mother. Wilson spent his early years singing for his father’s congregation and formed the Gap Band with his brothers, Ronnie and Robert, as a teenager.

In the late 1970s and early 80s, the Gap Band took their signature funk and R&B sound and made chart-topping hits like “Burn Rubber on Me”, “Outstanding”, “You Dropped a Bomb on Me”, and “Party Train”. The band’s management was rocky in the mid 1980s, and Wilson’s life took a downturn. A few years later, he was addicted to drugs and living on the streets. But a love for music and sense of pride helped right the course, and he retooled his career into Grammy-nominated solo work.
Wilson talks to us about crafting the now-classic sounds of the Gap Band, encounters with Stevie Wonder and Sly Stone, and why he returned to music after years of isolation and addiction.

Charlie Wilson’s newest record is Love, Charlie. He’ll receive BET’s Lifetime Achievement Award on June 30th.

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Comedy: Al Madrigal Meets the “Cholo Soccer Dad”

There’s a very specific kind of subculture you might encounter in East Los Angeles. Al Madrigal explains his encounter with it in this clip from his new stand up special, Why Is the Rabbit Crying?.

Al Madrigal is a stand up comic. You can catch him on the road in selected cities this summer and fall, and on TV as The Daily Show’s Latino Correspondent.

The Outshot: “The Best Ever Death Metal Band Out of Denton” by The Mountain Goats

Jesse explores a song about two high school friends, a death metal band, and dreams. It’s “The Best Ever Death Metal Band Out of Denton”.

The Mountain Goats are on tour this summer. You can find those dates on their website.

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  • Charlie Wilson
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