TRANSCRIPT One Bad Mother Episode 441: Let’s Go to the Movies! With or Without Kids. with Ify Nwadiwe

00:00:00

Biz Ellis

Host

Hi. I’m Biz.

00:00:01

Theresa Thorn

Host

And I’m Theresa.

00:00:02

Biz 

Host

Due to the pandemic, we bring you One Bad Mother straight from our homes—including such interruptions as: children! Animal noises! And more! So let’s all get a little closer while we have to be so far apart. And remember—we are doing a good job.

00:00:21

Music

Music

“Summon the Rawk” by Kevin MacLeod. Driving electric guitar and heavy drums.

[Continues through dialogue.]

00:00:24

Biz 

Host

This week on One Bad Mother—let’s go to the movies! With or without kids. With Ify Nwadiwe of Maximum Film!. Plus, Biz takes a big bite of sandwich. [Laughs.] 

00:00:37

Biz 

Host

Wooo!

00:00:39

Caller

Caller

Good morning!
 

[Biz laughs.] 

Calling with a check-in. It is bright and early over here, and my four-year-old decided to wake my six-year-old up with a golden shower this morning. So that’s what’s going on. And… two months ago, this would’ve destroyed my entire day. Week. Month. I dunno.

[Biz laughs.] 

But I started some antidepressants for the first time in my life—

[Biz laughs.] 

–about, I don’t know, four to six weeks ago? Something like that? So… I don’t know if it’s that or if it’s the holidays or what, but like… I’m able to see the humor in it. [Laughs.] And—[Laughs.] It was a lot of cleanup, but it is what it is. There was a little nice surprise and then we had bath time with the kids, and my six-year-old is much more independent with bathing himself than he was the last time that I gave him a bath, so that was—that was nice. And, y’know. It’s still kind of hilarious. I mean, Jesus Christ. Like—what—it’s funny. It’s funny! [Sighs.] [Laughs.] Have a good day.

[Biz laughs.] 

00:01:41

Biz 

Host

It is funny! ‘Cause you’re broken. I’m just kidding! [Laughs.] You’re doing a good job. Yeah. The—I like the sort of progression of, “Why am I not having the same reaction I would’ve had a while ago?” Now I always go right to slowly having been chipped away at. Right? Just by parenting and just—six and four? Mm. Y’know. That’s a lot. So that’s one. Medication, yes. 100% could be the reason you have zero feelings about this. [Laughs.] And that’s good. Two, you might just actually be so drowning from holidays and breaks and Omicron and everything else that, yeah! You just—sometimes the thing that many people think is the worst? Is the thing that makes us laugh the hardest when we’re done. [Laughs.] And y’know, and I like—again—lemons out of lemonade! They peed on one another. Not you. This would be a very different story if you woke up to that shower. I say turn it into a family legend. Have a good time. I think it’s actually amazing that you found humor in it. You’re doing a really good job! You’re doing a great job! You’re doing a great job. 

Speaking of great jobs, let’s [singing] send out the loooove! [Regular voice] With thank-you’s.

00:03:06

Music

Music

Heavy electric guitar and driving percussion overlaid with “Ohh, oh-oh, oh-oh” and “Hey-ey-ey-ey-ey-ey” lyrics.

00:03:21

Biz

Host

[Singing] Thank you, thank you, thank you teachers! Dah, dah, dah! Thank you, thank you, thank you doctors! Dah, dah, dah! Thank you, thank you, thank you mailmans! Dah, dah, dah! Thank you, thank you, thank you, pharmacists! Dah, dah, dah! Thank you, thank you—key change! [Laughs.] Thank you, thank you, thank you principals! [Claps.] Thank you, thank you, thank you [inaudible]. Thank you, thank you, veterinarians! [Claps.] [Regular voice] Alright. That’s—[Laughs.] We’re not going any higher than that. Thank you, Gabe. Thank you very much. If—you know, the hits keep on coming. Thank you. Thank you to really all the teachers, all the administration in schools helping keep them run or help keeping them remote or just essentially—you gotta pivot all the time. So thank you for wearing your pivoting shoes. Medical industry? Again, above and beyond and then past that is where you’ve gone. And… I just hope that we as a nation don’t get lazy in realizing the incredible efforts that you’ve had to put in over the last two and a half years. You are really remarkable. And if you are in a snippy mood? You deserve it. That is okay. [Laughs.] 

Everybody who’s just making the day-to-day run, it’s incredibly important. Really appreciate you. And I wanna thank the volunteers who are out there supporting the people who are out there! Guys? Remember—like, we have this thing at this school where we just—we’ve started bringing snacks and thank-you signs to the people who swab our kids’ noses. Right? Like, that is a gross job. I’ve talked about that before. Swabbing people’s noses. And I just think that’s awesome and we have some other people who bring stuff for teachers and just like, who can we keep bringing stuff to to say “hi” to, y’know? And “thank you” to? Little sign—thank you! At the grocery store? Thank you! At the post office? Thank you! On the door of the—I dunno—hospital? That’s a little weird. Maybe not right on the door of the hospital but somewhere. Maybe in like a lounge. Like a nurses’ lounge. Right? You got somebody in there! Give them the sign! They can go stick it up for you! Y’know? Let’s just don’t get lost from seeing each other. Because you guys are all out there doing such a good job. And I really appreciate you.  

00:05:54

Biz 

Host

Speaking of things I appreciate—I love a good sandwich. Don’t you? Except in this case. I am referring to what has been coined “the sandwich generation” sandwich. As many of you know, I have been really trying to get my folks out here from Alabama and we did it. And they live here now. And it is wonderful. It does put me in a place where I am sort of sandwiched between my kids and my folks in terms of helping. And for the most part, it’s totally good. I think they’re out here because I wanted to be able to help as they age. They’re both in their eighties. 

I think just like with kids? I think it’s the unexpected—the strange, unexpected moments that catch me off guard? So for example, my father had some general surgery and I was over there caring for him yesterday and overnight. And then I was leaving my mom with like, y’know, we went over like, “This is when the next medications are given. This is when he needs to eat. He needs to have something in his stomach.” Blah, blah, blah. And we’re going through it, and there’s that moment where you’re sort of like… like, to yourself—can they do it? Can she—like, five years ago I wouldn’t have asked that question in my own mind. Right? Like, ten years ago for sure not. These are smart, amazing, capable people. Who are now just older. [Laughs.] Tired. Fucking done. 

So it’s such a weird—it’s not even a question that comes up while I’m there. It’s like once I’ve gone? I’m like, “I wonder if that’s gonna happen.” Right? [Laughs.] I think it will! Pretty sure it will. But also there might be a day where it really won’t. And y’know. Just—and just like kids, when it comes to these things, I have learned my lessons and you just gotta kinda roll with them. Be prepared to pivot. Be prepared to shift mode when needed. But… it’s—y’know? Stuck in my teeth, as it were. It’s a little piece of lettuce. Still got a little mustard on my shirt. Gotta change shirts. So, ky’know. That is what so many of us are going through. And I know that one of the things that not only do my parents and I share a joy for, but I have found wonderful to use as an escape mechanism is… movies. 

We’re gonna talk about how awesome movies are with Ify Nwadiwe.

00:08:41

Music

Music

Banjo strums; cheerful banjo music continues through dialogue.

00:08:42

Theresa

Host

Please—take a moment to remember: If you’re friends of the hosts of One Bad Mother, you should assume that when we talk about other moms, we’re talking about you.

00:08:49

Biz 

Host

If you are married to the host of One Bad Mother, we definitely are talking about you.

00:08:52

Theresa

Host

Nothing we say constitutes professional parenting advice.

00:08:56

Biz 

Host

Biz and Theresa’s children are brilliant, lovely, and exceedingly extraordinary.

00:09:00

Theresa

Host

Nothing said on this podcast about them implies otherwise.

[Banjo music fades out.] 

[Biz and her guest repeatedly affirm each other as they discuss the weekly topic.]

00:09:04

Biz 

Host

This week, we are welcoming Ify Nwadiwe, who is an actor, a comedian, a writer, who has appeared on Comedy Central’s Key & Peele, Workaholics, IFC’s Comedy Bang! Bang!, and Comedy Central’s At Midnight. And—is one of the hosts at Maximum Fun’s podcast Maximum Film!, among many other things. I am sure this is not the most updated of the bios. So we’ll pump him for information in a little bit. Welcome, Ify!

00:09:32

Ify Nwadiwe

Guest

Hey! How’s it goinnnng?

00:09:35

Biz 

Host

Gotta just—your voice—I wanna be on a radio show. Let’s do a radio show!
 

[Ify laughs.] 

It’s like, “Hey, good morninnnng!” It’s what it always feels like. Alright. Before we get into all the fun things we could talk about today, I’m gonna ask you what we ask all our guests, which is—who lives in your house? And by “house,” really wherever you hang your hat.

00:09:57

Ify 

Guest

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:09:59

Biz 

Host

And by who—whoever you wanna mention! [Laughs.] 

00:10:01

Ify 

Guest

Yeah, yeah! So I can finally say “house,” because I’m renting a house? And I definitely remember when I really felt that. Because I actually moved two blocks down and I had my daughter outside playing with the neighbor’s daughter, and my daughter is like, “Oh yeah, my house is over there!” And the little daughter goes, “That’s not a house. That’s an apartment.”

00:10:24

Crosstalk

Crosstalk

Biz: Ohhhh! Screw you, kid!

Ify: And I was like, “Oh… oh…” 

00:10:27

Ify 

Guest

I was like, “Oh, so you’re raising a pedant, huh?” [Laughs.] “Is that what you’re doing?” So now… I got my baby in a house with me. But y’know. Co-parenting and it’s been fun because—and I say “fun” almost sarcastically, because two weeks ago my girlfriend had COVID. And that was a crisis in its own because it was my girlfriend and my daughter and me and we were all here. And when she tested positive I was like, “Oh, snap! Well we gonna test—” I had to test my daughter and then when she was negative I was like, “Okay, you have to leave. I have to save you.” 

[Biz laughs.] 

So her mom came and picked her up. And then I was negative through the whole experience kind of taking care of her. And then the week after, I’m ready to receive my child again, then I test positive. And I was like, “You gotta stay away again.” So luckily–

00:11:22

Biz 

Host

Actually, I love that you are sharing this story. Because this is—again—another facet of like the pandemic and co-parenting that I just—is not—like, where its front-page headline? Oh, I’m sorry, it has to do with kids and parenting so fuck you.

00:11:37

Ify 

Guest

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We don’t care. 

00:11:39

Biz 

Host

Yeah. We don’t really care. But that’s super disruptive in so many ways. And trying to get your kid—I mean, did your kid ever get it? I mean, like I’m so worried that it’s like once it’s in the house, it’s stuck to you like glitter. Everybody’s gonna have glitter on them.

00:11:56

Ify 

Guest

Oh, yeah. And that’s the thing that I feel no one realizes. Kids are eternally sick? So this past two years have just been a nightmare. Because it’s been—for everyone it’s like, “Oh my gosh, do I have COVID?” And it was like, “No, it’s literally every day because my child came out the womb coughing and has not stopped coughing.” And then also the school wants to be assholes and if they start coughing they gotta get sent home and it was like, well–

00:12:23

Biz 

Host

You gotta go! That’s right!

00:12:25

Ify 

Guest

–there’s this unwritten war between parents where your kid starts coughing and you’re like, “Well you sent your sick-ass kid to school! Guess what? I’m sending my sick-ass kid to school!” [Laughs.] 

00:12:35

Biz 

Host

That’s right! They got sick at school. They weren’t sick when they left. See, COVID’s ruined that? For all of us?

00:12:40

Ify 

Guest

Yeah. You can no longer fire back and be like— [Laughs.] 

00:12:43

Biz 

Host

You can no longer be like, “Well, there wasn’t a fever. At least I can—” Y’know. How old is yours?

00:12:48

Crosstalk

Crosstalk

Ify: She’s five. She’s gonna be six in a couple—yeah. Kindergarten!

Biz: Five! Oh, so you are also trapped in the–

00:12:54

Biz 

Host

“No vaccine, no…” Like–

00:12:57

Ify 

Guest

Well now she can. So she–

00:12:59

Biz 

Host

Well now she can. Yeah.

00:13:01

Ify 

Guest

She—but yeah. You’re right. I was trapped in the negazone and then now we’re good. And it’s so funny because it was this thing when you’re like, “I gotta, I gotta—” And now that you got it, you’re like, “Okay, does the scheduling work out?” 

[Biz laughs.] 

I’m like, “Let me find the time to get her down there.” And all my—parents with—friends, yeah, ‘cause she’s just at the cutoff. So all my friends with younger kids are feeling the same way and now Pfizer just sent it to the FDA for a much younger one that they’re crossing their fingers for. And I’m like, “Yeah, cross your fingers, but you’re gonna be in this bunk, too, where you’re like, ‘Well, do I—can we—‘cause, y’know… all the scheduling. We will be able to find the time to—‘”

00:13:44

Biz 

Host

Oh god, no. I was camped out. I was like—stick ‘em all! Stick ‘em all!

[Ify laughs.]

And then stick ‘em as many times as you possibly can and then stick me too, just in case I can get another stick. But the—okay. You’ve got a kid who isn’t vaccinated ‘cause they’re under five. And that is the age of all the colds. Like, it’s like a—it is sort of like a rite of passage. You’re gonna go to preschool and then everybody is gonna be sick for at least a year. And by—everybody in your family. Your kid’s gonna come home with a million things. And it’s a freaking nightmare right now because every sniffle is—“Is it COVID? Is it COVID? Is it—Have I killed the entire population of—” I dunno. “Covina? What’s happened?” And that is just undue stress on top of, y’know. What you normally have to deal with as a parent. Just kinda… awful. 

00:14:43

Ify 

Guest

Yeah. No. It’s—I’ve just finally got around. She went to the playground and it’s so fun seeing them play ‘cause they’re—y’know. The kids, they don’t care. They’re like, “Alright. Yeah. I’ma just run around and I’ma just get up my mask. My dad keeps yelling at me to pull it up, but whatever.” So yeah. It’s—it’s been wild. So—but luckily, this story has a great ending because this trip was planned out like about a month or so ago. But we’re going up to Lake Arrowhead this weekend. All parties are negative. [Laughs.] 

[Biz laughs.] 

All parties are negative. We have the antibodies. We’re ready. And so now we’re–

00:15:25

Biz 

Host

You’re prime! You should go to Disneyland and like lick things! You should go, like…

00:15:29

Ify 

Guest

That’s what I’m saying!

00:15:31

Biz 

Host

Wherever. You get on a plane! I dunno! You go anywhere you want! You are so–

00:15:35

Ify 

Guest

It’s time! I truly feel invincible. I stopped going to my Gold’s ‘cause I go to Barbell Brigade–oh man, whatever. I post it on social media, so it’s not even worth–

00:15:49

Biz 

Host

He is very developed, everyone.

[Ify laughs.]

In the arms. If you can’t see on this audio podcast. 

[Ify laughs.] 

He cares about his body. Okay. [Laughs.] 

00:16:00

Ify 

Guest

So I’m in there. I usually get in and they’re really good about having the mask mandate. They were the first gym I went to and the whole reason I started going to the gym was because they separated the equipment and taped it off—yeah. They were on it. So I’ve just kinda stayed there. And but I go—it’s like a lifting gym. There’s not much cardio equipment?

[Biz laughs.] 

So when I need to run to kinda shed some of these pounds, these lbs? I have to go to Gold’s–

00:16:28

Biz 

Host

I don’t even know what you’re talking about.

00:16:30

Ify 

Guest

Y’know how they–

00:16:32

Biz 

Host

I’m just shaking my head like this. I literally just drank some potato chip crumbs out of this bowl.

[Ify laughs.]

As if it was a goblet of like, I dunno. Nectar from the gods. Just being very much myself. So—okay. I want to talk a little bit about—now, I have had… the privilege of being on Maximum Fun’s—your podcast, Max Film. And if I remember correctly, you were in a room that looked like the most tuned-up at-home theatre—

[Ify laughs.]

–setup. So—and I think I shared this story with you. We started losing our mind right away. And we have this super shitty, don’t-sneeze, the garage-will-go-over—like, it still has a flag in it from the people who used to live here? And like, some kid’s elementary school picture in it!? And it is not a safe place? And that is now the home movie theatre. Stefan went out and got this big rollout screen and we’ve got the projector. We’ve got the surround sound. For his birthday he got this thing that I was like, “I don’t know what that is. Does it make you happy? That is very good. I am so glad.” And there’s sound everywhere, and it has been his happy place. And I have enjoyed it. Like when I go out to watch my, y’know, Peacemaker or I’ve just recently gotten to Doom Patrol so I’ve been watching that on the big screen. So I’ve seen that evolution. Tell me—yours is—yours looks like you’re not looking up if the earth starts to shake. I’m always like, “oh, god, I’m going to die under these Christmas decorations! That’s how I’m gonna go.” Tell me about the setup and how it’s helped. [Laughs.] 

00:18:17

Ify 

Guest

Yeah, no. I definitely went full nesting mode like everyone when we did it. So yeah, when I was in the apartment—as you know, my daughter’s friend would call. I had a little bit smaller TV. I think it was a 56”, and then I started with the sound bar. And–

00:18:37

Biz 

Host

The sound bar’s—that’s the entryway. That’s the— [Laughs.]  

00:18:40

Ify 

Guest

Yeah, that’s the entryway. Because, y’know, a lot of times you’ll go to someone’s house and you know you’re listening through the TV speakers and you’re like, “Oh, the words are kinda muffled.” And it’s like, ‘cause it’s coming out that one speaker. There’s a dynamic sound coming out. And so I got the sound bar. And then once I found out that sound bars were essentially like Lego blocks that you can build upon, that was it. Because I had a sound bar. I added the woofer. And then I added the back speakers. So that’s what I have right now. And–

00:19:12

Biz 

Host

That’s epic.

00:19:14

Ify 

Guest

Yeah. And of course, when I moved over here and so I had more space, I upgraded. And I believe this is a 75”.

[Biz laughs.] 

And I’m still—I’m still looking at it. And I was like, “It could be bigger, though. It could be—"

00:19:29

Biz 

Host

See, that’s why you need the literal rollout screen. Giant, like, it’s—and Stefan always has—to me, it always looks like the projector image is lined up perfectly? But he’ll always come in and fiddle with just the smallest corner.

[Ify laughs.]

And I’m like, “Who are you doing that for? You’re not even watching this with me. Get out. Leave. Close the garage door!”

00:19:51

Ify 

Guest

“It’s off! I see it! I see it. It’s a little skewed. I gotta mess with it a little bit.”

00:19:57

Biz 

Host

So you’re a movie lover. Have you begun—and are you excited about—what you’re gonna share with your kid? 

00:20:05

Ify 

Guest

Oh, yes. It’s been fun, because it’s like the share v. what they’re into? Y’know, she was not immune to the Frozen phase. Frozen, Frozen 2. She liked Soul. So it’s really been a lot of those things. And the fun thing about Disney+ is you can go and find it. But now, y’know, these kids nowadays. Y’know, everything is like kind of this 3D animation?

00:20:34

Biz 

Host

Yeah. We don’t let ours have anything. [Laughs.] 

00:20:37

Ify 

Guest

Yeah. So when she sees me trying to put on a regular 2D animation? She’s kinda like, “Ahhh… I… where’s the—where’s the—where’s that other dimension? There’s a dimension missing from this.”

[Biz laughs.] 

So that’s been fun. But what’s been even more fun is if there’s a movie for kids that interests me, now I don’t have to just be like, “Oh, I’m gonna just watch it myself.” I can watch it for her and no matter how good the movie is to me, seeing her enjoy it? It’s so funny. And also it’s funny when it’s a thing that she doesn’t get yet? But sees me laughing? And then she’s like, “Well, why are you laughing?” Like, the big thing—it was in Luca. I don’t know if you’ve all seen Luca yet? And when he’s talking and confiding into his grandmother, but she’s just asleep with her eyes open? And that just took me out. And she was like, “What—why is that funny?” I was like, “Oh, it’s because he thought she was awake, and he was talking to her like she’s—but she didn’t hear anything!” And then, y’know, Molly—my girlfriend—wanted to see the scene again. So we rewind it and then this time she laughed with us, ‘cause she’s like, “Okay. I get those funny now.”

[Biz laughs.] 

00:21:56

Biz 

Host

Yeah, no. It’s great. Stefan—we both do different things with the kids, movie-wise. And ours are now… eight and twelve. So the twelve-year-old has been—they’ve been doing a Saturday movie night—I mean, Friday movie night—for a couple years now. And they are able—man, I’m just telling you—it gets so good. ‘Cause they are going through all of it. Y’know. They’ve done everything from Bill & Ted to, y’know, E.T. and Jaws and—obviously all the Star Wars. But Ellis, our younger one, just got the back-to-back Ghostbusters. And for the first time, we as a family sat in that garage and watched Ghostbusters: Afterlife. Which to me signifies sort of a grown-up movie? A little bit? And we all watched it and everybody got it. And everybody was laughing. And everybody was whooping and hollering. Wow! And I—Stefan and I both kinda do that look? Like, “Oh, yeah. This is what we’ve been waiting for!” Like–

00:23:04

Ify 

Guest

That was the perfect movie for exactly what y’all did. I recently watched it and I was like, “Yeah, this—it’s perfect for that.” For the parents and the kids they introduce the Ghostbusters to, now they get to watch this new generation and kids are doing their thing but there’s a whole bunch of Easter eggs for the older folks who remember. It’s—yeah. That was—yeah. You did it right.

00:23:27

Biz 

Host

Yeah, no. I think if you’re a movie lover, I think movies are just… a great way to hang with your kid. Especially when there are times that you don’t wanna hang with your kid? Or they don’t wanna hang with you. Right? Like, I… my mother, at one point—my sister had gone to college. I think I was in high school? Maybe ninth grade? And we’d go to the video store and rent a video, but we would rent all—she rented all the Alfred Hitchcocks. And we started going through all the Alfred Hitchcocks together on the weekend, and then my father and I bonded over like Arnold Schwarzenegger movies. Right? And I think pretty much my mother taught me all I needed to know about self-protection from Die Hard. “Shoot ‘em ‘til they’re dead, baby! You shoot them ‘til they are dead!”

[Ify laughs.] 

Did you have that kind of experience growing up? Do you—what brought you to movies?

00:24:23

Ify 

Guest

Oh, man. Movies—I was, y’know, that ‘90s kid who found movies through channel flipping? My dad, y’know, he was a Nigerian immigrant and he didn’t watch much. He wasn’t like a movie guy. That—y’know. And the movies he did watch, they were Nollywood movies and he wouldn’t let me watch it with him.

[Biz laughs.] 

So the movies I got were the ones that I picked up or stuff I was pulling out of my mom’s collection, which was like, What’s Love Got To Do With It, or [inaudible] Ex Hell. Y’know, this definitely wasn’t having my hand held into my movie-watching. I was thrown to the wolves watching Monster’s Ball with my aunts. And they told me to close my eyes.

00:25:09

Biz 

Host

“Close your eyes! Close your eyes!”

00:25:11

Ify 

Guest

Yeah. Like, “This is so long. What is happening? Why is my eyes closed this long?” 

[Biz laughs.] 

00:25:17

Biz 

Host

That’s awesome. Well I do sometimes wonder—do you think that’s what led to your investment? ‘Cause like, Stefan’s—Stefan’s parents were like, y’know, “You can watch this movie that’s on PBS or the BBC.” And—like, an Agatha Christie. But they didn’t like… I was like such a kid that was raised on TV and movies. And so to me, our relationship is, “Well what about this?” “I haven’t seen that.” “You’ve never seen that?!” Right? Like, “How are you a functioning human being?” And I think that’s part of his drive. So do you… I mean, is that one of the reasons that you think you really just… dive into movies? And I don’t—you don’t strike me as somebody who has got a type.

00:26:02

Ify 

Guest

Yeah. Yeah, no. I definitely like any and all movies. And it was funny ‘cause it was right before I joined Maximum Film!, where I was the guy who’s like, I always wanted—I always wanna be watching more movies. I wanna be checking out movies. And y’know, my roommate moved in and he was that movie guy who loved every which movies and was kind of a tastemaker, which was like—oh, you’d probably like this and that. And so it slowly kind of wrapped me in and before you know it I was watching things like Mother! And being like, “No, I actually like it even though everyone hates this.” [Laughs.] 

[Biz laughs.] 

00:26:38

Biz 

Host

Right. [Laughs.] Right.

00:26:42

Ify 

Guest

So when I joined MaxFilm, y’know, at the time it was Who Shot Ya?, I was like, “Oh yeah!” ‘Cause I came on as a guest when Ricky left. And I was like, “Oh, yeah, this is fun!” And Casey asked if I wanted to do it and I was like, “Yeah, no, this is an excuse to watch a new movie a week every week.” And now I’ve finally got to the point because I—there was a point when I started when I would always do a bonus movie, just so I can have something for the “What’s Good?” If you notice, y’know, Drea and Alonso will be searching the annals of their brain library to find the perfect “What’s Good?” thematically, and I’m like—what’s something an actor has been in that I’ve seen that was also in this movie? And then it seems like I also did that same kind of brain work when really I’m just scratching the surface here. 

[Biz laughs.] 

So… then I got—then it just got busy. And now I’m finally back at the time with the home theatre where I’m just watching all the movies I can as I’m just going about it. 

00:27:46

Biz 

Host

Oh my god. I gotta put you and Stefan in a room together and just compare notes. 

[Ify laughs.]

Alright. Tell me—what are you watching now? What are you like, “Oh, I can’t wait for the—” Either “I can’t wait for this to come out,” or “This is what I’m watching this week and it’s totally guilty-pleasure fun. I wanna do it.” What’s your…

00:28:07

Ify 

Guest 

So movies-wise, y’know, I get to be one of these cool kids ‘cause I got my Sundance pass and I can’t want for Nanny to come out for everyone to see. It’s a super-cool–

00:28:19

Biz 

Host

Tell me about Nanny. I don’t know anything.

00:28:21

Ify 

Guest

Nanny is about a Senegalese nanny who is helping this, y’know, WASP-y New York couple raise their child. And a lot of, y’know, creepy, mystical stuff ensues. And it’s all kind of based in African mythology. And I definitely know all of the kind of spirits or that they’re referencing. So it was really exciting and fun to me. And it’s like a very well-paced, beautiful movie. Shots are looking great, while also you’re getting to see this like… almost insufferable couple just like exist in the background? Like that’s kind of like—

[Biz laughs.] 

You’re just like, “Oh, they’re—they’re—yeah. I see what’s going on here. You’re having that fun.” So I’m really excited to see who lands that and when that comes out. And y’know, of course this was my—if you listen—this was my “What’s Good,” but After Yang was really great, too.

00:29:21

Biz 

Host

Was it?

00:29:23

Ify 

Guest

Uh, yeah. After Yang and Cha Cha Real Smooth, which is a nice rom-com. It’s a cute rom-com, which I think will be fun. TV-wise, I just finished Yellowjackets and I’m–

00:29:32

Biz 

Host

Oh my gosh, I have not watched it yet but my sister texted me and was like, “You need to drop everything that you’re doing and go—” I was like, “What is it?” “High school cheerleading team lost in the woods. That’s all I’m gonna say. Bus crashes in the woods.” And I was like, “Oh, please tell me there’s cannibalism.” Anyway. I know. She said that I would–

00:29:51

Ify 

Guest

It’s not a spoiler because it literally opens with that? Yes. The first scene–

00:29:56

Biz 

Host

Yes, there’s cannibal— [Laughs.] 

00:29:57

Ify 

Guest

The first scene you’ll see is cannibalism. So you’re—it’s like…

[Biz laughs.] 

Lord of the Flies meets WASP meets like angsty teenagers. Yeah. It’s–

00:30:08

Biz 

Host

I’m good. I’m all in for that. 

00:30:10

Ify 

Guest

It’s… I have—it’s juicy. I—it’s one of those shows that you love to watch and then talk about, because it’s definitely theories that’ll keep you guessing from the season and the season cliffhanger is… I mean, that’s–

00:30:26

Biz 

Host

Oh no! No! La, la, la! [Laughs.] 

00:30:28

Ify 

Guest

Oh, yeah, that’s it. That’s all I’m gonna tell you. Now you gotta go watch it. So…

00:30:32

Biz 

Host

Now I gotta go watch it. Now you have had the privilege of working on a little Peacemaker podcast. Tell us all about that for all of us who are DC nerds—

[Ify laughs.] 

–and in particular, in love with this show.

00:30:49

Ify 

Guest

Yeah. So it’s called Podly. It’s the official companion podcast to Peacemaker. Yeah. It’s—

[Biz laughs.] 

It’s been a blast. They—yeah. They asked me, they were like, “Oh, do you wanna do it for Peacemaker?” And I was like, “Sure!” And I got to watch the entire season. So I know everything that’s gonna happen. 

[Biz yells in jealous frustration.]

And it’s so fun to see people seeing stuff? Because also you get to be in this unique position because, y’know, as a fan of the TV watching experience—and I’m glad that they’re doing it week-by-week so you can’t just binge it—you get to have this weekly conversation. Normally, y’know, you’re guessing with everyone. But I get to be in this fun one to see who’s getting onto it, who’s way off, who’s—y’know, who’s gonna have an insight that I didn’t expect to see. And it’s been super-duper fun. And the super-duper fun thing about Podly was every episode was either with someone from the cast or James Gunn. James Gunn was the first episode, and y’know we were talking about this before we started recording, but you get to—you rarely get to watch a show and then essentially thank the creator and say how it was great and start to pick their brain. And James was very open to, y’know, just answering with like—“Was this this?” And he’s having fun with it. It was like… y’know, at this point you know that some of the things Peacemaker says about other DC characters?

[Biz laughs.] 

It was like–

00:32:21

Biz 

Host

I know! I’m like, “Ah, no!” Okay, I’m sorry—I have to—guys, this is not a spoiler of any kind. But in a recent episode, there is—I’m so bad at names even with friends. Amanda Waller’s daughter.

00:32:33

Ify 

Guest

Yeah, yeah.

00:32:35

Biz 

Host

And her girlfriend.

00:32:37

Ify 

Guest

Yes. Danielle Brooks. Yeah. 

00:32:38

Biz 

Host

They sit on the couch and they’re just saying this was too much, I shouldn’t have—eh, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. She goes, “Let’s just go home to Gotham.” And I like—like, Stefan and I both kinda did like a thing and I was like, “Wait. They live in Gotham?! And they think that that’s the place to go?” And like, “This is too much! Let’s just go back to Gotham.”

00:32:59

Ify 

Guest

To Gotham. Where crime is prevalent.

00:33:03

Biz 

Host

Everywhere! It is not a relaxing town. It’s like constantly New York in the ‘70s as far as I know, and I just was like—it was such this tiny little drop that they said? It was such a throwaway line that had me howling and thinking about it for like the rest… of—well, ‘til now. ‘Til now. 24 hours later.

00:33:24

Ify 

Guest

That’s what’s great about it. It—yeah. James does those jokes-within-a-jokes where there’s the—y’know, there’s jokes for the show and there’s jokes for things as a fan. Like, the fact that he references Matter-Eater Lad, which is like…

[Biz laughs.] 

In every useless superpower listicle on the internet right now. And they’re like, “Yeah, no, we made him canon.” ‘Cause, y’know, this is DC canon! So he’s just adding [through laughter] these weirdos to the DC canon!

00:33:53

Biz 

Host

But it’s so good! Because as a lover of—what I like to call “the C-Level” superheroes—I like… I, y’know, I need my Booster Gold show. Where’s my Booster Gold show? That gold and the blue. Gabe and I have talked quite often—I think he even has a little tattoo! [Laughs.] 

00:34:10

Ify 

Guest

Ooooh!

00:34:12

Biz 

Host

I know. We are DC nerds. I don’t know where I was even going with this. I was just getting excited talking to somebody who likes–

00:34:18

Ify 

Guest

Oh yeah!

00:34:20

Biz 

Host

Some of this stuff!

00:34:21

Ify 

Guest

And that’s truly—

[Biz laughs.] 

I feel like speaking to James, that’s what he feels like his purpose is. He’s like, “I’ma find these C-Levels.”

00:34:30

Biz 

Host

And that’s all we need to say about parenting. 

00:34:34

Ify 

Guest

Yeah. Yeah. 

[Biz laughs.] 

There it is.

00:34:37

Biz 

Host

Alright. Clearly I could talk to you about nerdy things forever. But I just—I’m so glad you could come on. I love—I just think it’s gonna be great. The movie journey you get to start with your daughter.

[Ify laughs.] 

And also, good job in the world of co-parenting ‘cause that’s a lot of work. I mean, it’s like extra, extra work. And so… good job.

[Ify laughs.] 

Especially navigating COVID with that. And we will make sure that everybody can find you not only at Maximum Film!, but with Podly and all the other fun stuff that you’re doing. So thank you so much for joining us!

00:35:19

Ify 

Guest

Thanks for having me! I was so excited to hop on and chat with you. Couldn’t get enough of you on MaxFilm, I had to chase you down to your own pod.

00:35:26

Biz 

Host

Mm, I know! We should go back and like—I will always think, I did not say all the things I needed to say about that movie. Yeah, guys! Go back and find it. I—we talked about The Lost Daughter, of all things. Uh, and that wasn’t something I would’ve signed up to watch.

[Ify laughs.] 

And these guys think they can talk about a movie in fifteen, twenty minutes with me as the guest.

[Ify laughs.] 

That’s like just the warm-up! That’s not even to the—y’know. I can’t ever stop. So go find that. That was a good time. Thank you so much! 

00:35:57

Ify 

Guest

No, no! Thank you!

00:35:59

Music

Music

“Ones and Zeroes” by “Awesome.” Steady, driving electric guitar with drum and woodwinds.

[Music fades out.]

00:36:16

Music

Promo

Cheerful ukulele with whistling plays in background.

00:36:17

Biz 

Promo

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00:37:26

Music

Promo

Inspirational keyboard music plays in background.

00:37:27

Biz 

Promo

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00:38:30

Theresa

Host

Hey, you know what it’s time for! This week’s genius and fails! This is the part of the show where we share our genius moment of the week, as well as our failures, and feel better about ourselves by hearing yours. You can share some of your own by calling 206-350-9485. That’s 206-350-9485.

00:38:50

Biz 

Host

Genius fail time. Genius me, me!

00:38:53

Clip

Clip

[Dramatic, swelling music in background.]

Biz: Wow! Oh my God! Oh my God! I saw what you did! Oh my God! I’m paying attention! Wow! You, mom, are a genius. Oh my God, that’s fucking genius!

00:39:08

Biz 

Host

Oh, okay. [Laughs.] I was about to have a sip of water like I’m just waiting for me to genius myself. Two words: pill stickies. Okay. Not only—as I was leaving my parents’ apartment—I’d gone over with Mama. While I’m gone, there are three pills that may be distributed. ‘K? One is the next ibuprofen. There’s then an antibiotic. And then—if I’m not back by the time it’s due?—there will be the ibuprofen again. ‘K? And as needed for pain, you can give him bigger—bigger pill. But you don’t need to. Unless he’s really—okay. I’ve got the time listed, the amount listed in an email that I’ve sent. On paper, to check off, she wrote it all down. And then I was like, “Mm, what am I do?” Because those pill bottles all look exactly alike. 

I got—I took—I embraced my inner Gabe and I got some stickies. I got post-it notes. And I wrote down on each post-it note. One said, “Ibuprofen: 11AM. 1 pill.” And I put the ibuprofen bottle on that. And I did the same for the antibiotic and I did the same for the big pain pill that just said “Only if needed! Do not give unless needed!” I was just like, “Okay!” Now there is—I just felt like this is something I can do. She found it helpful, because it’s not like the apple falls far from the tree. I didn’t get this kind of organizational skills from nowhere. [Laughs.] They weren’t innate. [Laughs.] They were nurture, not nature! I thought it was pretty good. So maybe that’ll help you, too, if you are [through laughter] having to medicate people. Anyway! Yayyy!

00:41:03

Caller

Caller

[Answering machine beeps.] 

Hey! So this is like a low-bar genius. I realized we needed a bunch of cleaning supplies for cleaning today, so I went on Target. Target had a deal. Got a bunch of cleaning supplies and I’m about to check out and it hits me that my sunglasses broke a few weeks ago and I’ve been, y’know, suffering. Not “suffering”—that’s the wrong word.

[Biz laughs.] 

But I’ve been dealing with the fact that every time I drive, I have to squint because I can’t see because I broke my cheap sunglasses. So I just added a pair of sunglasses to my order. That’s where I’m at. I remembered to buy sunglasses for myself because I am a Self. You guys are doing a great job and so am I! Bye.

00:41:51

Biz 

Host

It’s true! You are! I think—again, low bar. We need like a… t-shirt that says, “Welcome to the low bar!” Might have to be the new One Bad Mother shirt. What do you think, Gabe? Welcome… to the low bar. Where everybody knows your shame. [Laughs.] No, we won’t do that! But I like “Welcome to the low bar.” Like, Gabe’s writing it down on a sticky! God! Gabe will always be my genius forever. Anyway, I love this low bar. But it’s not that low! Because the sunglasses—you can replace that with anything, be it like… a better makeup brush. A toothbrush. A hairbrush. Like, “I lost my charging cord. Now I run around and have to do all this complicated stuff just to charge it.” Right? Like… we had little things like this all the time that you only think about when you need it. And when you need it, you really need it! And when you don’t have it, it’s infuriating and it can just screw shit up. So I think that this is such a good job. If I was at a dinner party, I would tap the wine glass—ding, ding, ding!—and make sure that everybody heard this genius, and then insist on applause. Or that we all tap. Right? Like, ding, ding, ding, ding! You’re doing a great job. Failures!

00:43:13

Clip

Clip

[Dramatic orchestral music plays in the background.]

Theresa: [In a voice akin to the Wicked Witch of the West] Fail. Fail. Fail. FAIL!

[Timpani with foot pedal engaged for humorous effect.]

Biz: [Calmly] You suck!

00:43:18

Biz 

Host

Fail me, me. Okay. I will. I am been very good at helping my parents with their appointments and scheduling. Ellis—who’s not a parent—he’s my child—had a orthodontist appointment check-in. And we just didn’t give him any heads-up. No heads-up. No warning. We’re literally sitting at [through laughter] breakfast, and Stefan says, “And you’ve got the orthodontist this morning so you don’t have to rush!” And he was like, “What?!” And I was like, “Yes, you do!” [Laughs.] Like as if—we didn’t even try and say “We told you.” He’s like, “I didn’t know!” And we’re like, “Yeah, no. We know. We just forgot to tell you.” And this is not the first time that I’ve just forgotten to tell one of my children—who thrive on information—they thrive on information. It is like their sunlight, and we just haven’t given it to them. And then we surprise them right after they’ve woken up, which is not the best time for surprises. So. Uhhh! There ya go.

00:44:22

Caller

Caller

[Answering machine beeps.] 

Hey, guys. This is a fail. It is currently one o’clock in the morning. It is my first night solo parenting my eight-month-old. My partner is across the country. And I was so nervous about being able to wake up in the morning when she gets up. I don’t usually do her first bottle. My partner usually does that. I don’t usually hear her on the monitor. So I thought I was gonna sleep on the floor in the nursery. And in doing so, I have woken my baby up.

[Biz laughs.] 

I’m not in the room with her. I am watching her on the monitor. She’s… rolling around in her crib. She has her binky, but her eyes are open. She’s been awake now for twenty minutes.

[Biz laughs.] 

I… don’t feel like I can go back to sleep until I see that she’s asleep. And now it’s just me and we’re both going to be so tired tomorrow and this is such a fail. ‘Cause I was just trying to be able to wake up and hear her in the morning so—[sighs]. Oh, I’m so mad at myself.

[Biz laughs.] 

Anyways. Thank you. Um… yeah. What a fail. 

00:45:49

Biz 

Host

Oh. Oh, yeah. No. I’m—I see you? This is a very valid fail. ‘K? And you are not alone in having failed this way. But don’t let that take away the significance of how you feel about this fail! Yeah! I see that—the worry that you’re not gonna wake up to hear the baby. Or that you’re not gonna wake up in time… like, and that’s gonna lead to something awful? Means you’re gonna have no sleep. I now believe that you could’ve been laying anywhere. And your baby still would’ve woken up in the middle of the night. Even if you were in your own bed, that baby still would’ve woken up. Because it’s out there. It’s out there. Your fail is having a concern and having thought on it and having put energy into the concern by trying to come up with a helpful solution. And then that went out into the universe, and the universe said: go fuck yourself. That… was your failure. I think you’re doing a tremendous job. That just—just a sidenote, you’re doing—that first—the first time when you’re doing the solo parent thing? Ugh! It feels like you have run and successfully completed a marathon when you’re done! You’re like, “Yeah, I did it!” Okay? So… you’re doing a good job with that. But with sleep and, y’know, trying to solve a problem, you’re failing horribly. So. Yayyy.

00:47:26

Music

Music

“Mom Song” by Adira Amram. Mellow piano music with lyrics.

You are the greatest mom I’ve ever known.

I love you, I love you.

When I have a problem, I call you on the phone.

I love you, I love you.

[Music fades out.]

00:47:49

Promo

Clip

Music: Funky music plays in background.

Jesse Thorn: Did your neighbor back into your car? 

John Hodgman: Bring that case to Judge Judy.

[Gavel bangs.]

Jesse: Think the mailman might be the real father?

John: Give that one to Judge Mathis.

[Gavel bangs.]

Jesse: But… does your mom want you to flush her ashes down the toilet at Disneyworld when she passes away? 

John: Now that’s my jurisdiction. Welcome to the court of Judge John Hodgman, where the people are real, the disputes are real, and the stakes are often… unusual.

Speaker 1: If I got arrested for dumping your ashes in the Jungle Cruise? It would be an honor.

Speaker 2: I don’t wanna be part of somebody getting a superyacht.

Speaker 3: I don’t know at what point you wanna go into this, but we’ve had a worm bin before.

Jesse: Available for you right now at MaximumFun.org.

John: Judge John Hodgman—the court of last resort when your wife won’t stop pretending to be a cat and knocking the clean laundry over.

[Cat meows.]

00:48:38

Promo

Clip

John C. McGinley: Hey, kid. Your dad tell you about the time he broke Stephen Dorff’s nose at the Kids' Choice Awards?

[Audience laughs.]

Music: Upbeat, funky rock.

Andrew Reich: In Dead Pilots Society, scripts that were developed by studios and networks, but were never produced, are given the table reads they deserve.

Will Forte: When I was a kid, I had to spend my Christmas break filming a PSA about angel dust. So yeah, being a kid sucks sometimes!

[Audience laughs.]

Andrew Reich: Presented by Andrew Reich and Ben Blacker. Dead Pilots Society. Twice a month on MaximumFun.org.

Echoing Background Voices: Dead Pilots Society…

Sage Ryan: You know, the show you like. That hobo with the scarf who lives in a magic dumpster?

[Audience laughs. Scattered applause.]

[Music fades out.]

John Hodgman: …Doctor Who?

Sage Ryan: Yeah!

[Audience laughs and applauds as the clip fades out.]

00:49:21

Biz 

Host

[Singing] Alright, everybodyyy! It’s tiiime… to listen to a mom have a breakdown.

00:49:29

Caller

Caller

[Answering machine beeps.] 

Hi there. I am calling with a rant. I am the mother of an only child. A four-year-old daughter by choice. Me and my husband only wanted one kid, so we had one kid. And we’re very happy with that. And I am so sick of hearing and seeing all the thoughtless comments people say and write about only having one kid! Or, y’know, the Christmas card that says, “The first kid made me a mom and dad, but the second kid made us a family.”

[Biz laughs.] 

Well, fuck that! We’re still parents. We’re still a family. My kid still has value in this world, whether or not she has siblings. And y’know, heaven forbid I did actually have fertility issues. How painful that would be to hear those comments every day. So to all you parents out there with only one kid, we’re still parents. We’re still a family. The kid still has value in this world, and they’re not going to be weird and entitled. Just because they don’t have a sibling. In fact, there’s lots of weird and entitled people in the world that do have siblings.

[Biz laughs.] 

So [inaudible] out there. I just wish the world would let go of their obsession with how many kids we have and support however many kids we do actually have. Thanks for the hotline. You’re doing a good job, and so am I. Even with one kid.

00:51:04

Biz 

Host

God! You are doing a good job! You know what’s funny, is… before I heard this call, this thought had popped into my head? And I don’t know why? But literally [through laughter] this is how my brain works. Suddenly I just thought of the following sentence: “Kids! You don’t have to have them!” [Laughs.] It’s true! It’s true! Kids—you don’t have to have ‘em! Kids—have ‘em if you want! Kids—surprise! There’s a kid that happens. Ding-dong! There’s your kid. That’s also a way to get kids. There are a lot of ways to get kids, and everybody has their right to make whatever decisions they need to when it comes to… having children! Okay? 

I really hear you when it comes to—I swear to god, one? Yes. I wish people would stop talking about how many kids we should or shouldn’t have. But will they ever stop trying to stick their finger into women’s reproductive rights or issues or just—I don’t know—everybody seems to feel like they’ve got some sort of proprietary, y’know, rights to women’s reproductive health. ‘K? So that is the systemic problem right there. From people touching your belly without permission to asking things like, “Is it a boy or a girl?” to “How many?” to “Are you gonna have more? When are you gonna have the boy?” Right? Ughhhh! “You got three daughters. You gotta keep trying ‘til you get a boy?” “Keep trying” like you’re trying to find a good melon? Like, I— [Laughs.] So irritating to me! We talk about women’s body sizes, carrying low, carrying high, lose that body weight. Ya gonna lose it, ya not gonna lose it. Right? Like, “Your face!” Blaach! Whatever! It just—Ahhh! 

We compare the sizes of babies to fruits and shit. Y’know. So we’re always thinking about it like a product, which is weird. I just… you’re fucked if you have one kid. You’re fucked if you have no kids. You’re fucked if you’ve got two kids. You’re fucked if you’ve got eight kids. Right? Everybody has some sort of weird opinion. So that’s one. Two, as we’ve said, there’s a good chance no one’s doing it at you. Unless they’re a total asshole. So that Christmas card, for example, isn’t at you. Right? In fact, I would rather take a look at where they put together Christmas cards? Like those online websites? And I wonder how many times there’s like a click-and-point, “Happy holidays!” Click! Right? Like— [Laughs.] Like, pre-done sayings? Y’know? It kinda makes sense. Y’know. 

Also… you can have no kids and still be a family. Like, this whole… you’re right! We need to let go of so many constructs that we bind ourselves with in this particular country, as well as many other places in the world. So I just—I totally hear you. And it’s really valid to feel angry and hurt by the questions like, “When are you gonna have another?” Or “My Uncle Larry was an only child. Y’know, he’s in prison.” [Laughs.] I will say, my father is an only child. It’s all I’m gonna say. But he’s alright. [Laughs.] And you’re right. It doesn’t matter how many kids are in your house. They each have the right to become peculiar weirdos, with or without siblings. ‘K? And a lot of times it’s gonna have very little to do with you, unfortunately. So I just… that is a fair—that is a heard rant. 

Let’s all go be mindful. Let’s also all just remember—it’s also okay if you just say, “Yay, I love having a couple of kids!” That’s good, too! That’s okay, too! Okay? That’s okay, too! We just have to be better at our language, and we’ve gotta be better at being mindful of… having empathy for the people we’re saying things around. Right? Of course send a Christmas card. Who gives a shit? Send a Christmas card. But it doesn’t hurt to be a little mindful of what your wording is. Right? So… [Laughs.] I just—I just… think you’re doing an amazing job. And I always appreciate when people call in and leave calls like this, ‘cause it just helps us all remember that we all have power with what we say, and with what we don’t say. So I really appreciate it. I love a chance to be more mindful. 

00:56:03

Biz 

Host

I also just wanna lead right into the wrap-up with this: I love hearing—y’know, Theresa hasn’t been here and so when she is and she hears the calls, she has started—she’s like—she always points something out that I take for granted now, and that is how many people call regardless of genius, fail, rant, check-in—people say, “You’re doing a good job, and I’m doing a good job, too.” And I just wanna point that out… that I think it’s remarkable? That’s not how it used to be on the hotline, everybody! [Laughs.] I think it’s remarkable that we are giving ourselves a little more grace and a little more love when it comes to that. 

Everybody? [Sighs.] Let’s just remember that we’re doing a good job. You guys are already doing a great job at that? One of the things I loved about talking with Ify just about movies and… it just reminds me that they can become such a helpful tool when there are kids in your house? [Laughs.] When we have family visiting and we don’t really wanna engage with family the entire time or we’re tired and we just need a break? You put a movie in! Everyone can sit and watch a movie. It’s a great way when you are just bone-tired and wanna sit on the couch. Call your kids over. Put on a movie. And as your kids get older and you find it harder to connect with them, y’know movies really helped me and my parents. Movies, movies, movies! If this was a movie, the tagline would be… “You are doing… a great job.” And I will talk to you next week. Bye!

00:57:59

Music

Music

“Mama Blues” by Cornbread Ted and the Butterbeans. Strumming acoustic guitar with harmonica and lyrics.

I got the lowdown momma blues

Got the the lowdown momma blues

Gots the lowdown momma blues

The lowdown momma blues. 

Gots the lowdown momma blues

Got the lowdown momma blues

You know that’s right.

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00:58:23

Biz 

Host

We’d like to thank MaxFun; our producer, Gabe Mara; our husbands, Stefan Lawrence and Jesse Thorn; our perfect children, who provide us with inspiration to say all these horrible things; and of course, you, our listeners. To find out more about the songs you heard on today’s podcast and more about the show, please go to MaximumFun.org/onebadmother. For information about live shows, our book and press, please check out OneBadMotherPodcast.com.

00:58:51

Theresa

Host

One Bad Mother is a member of the Maximum Fun family of podcasts. To support the show go to MaximumFun.org/join.

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Music

Transition

A cheerful ukulele chord.

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Speaker 1

Guest

MaximumFun.org.

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Speaker 2

Guest

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Speaker 3

Guest

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Speaker 4

Guest

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