Director Lauren Greenfield

13th December 2019

Imelda Marcos former Philippine first lady known for her troubling legacy is the subject of Lauren Greenfield’s new documentary The Kingmaker. Lauren’s film is both an intimate profile as well as a critique of plutocracy. On Bullseye Lauren talks to us about dealing with Imelda’s unreliable narration and changing her approach with her most journalistic work to date. Lauren also tells us how a lifetime spent covering wealth has affected her relationship with money.

Episode notes

New to Bullseye? Subscribe to our podcast in Apple Podcasts or with your favorite podcatcher to make sure you automatically get the newest episode every week.

Photo Credit: Lauren Greenfield.

Director Lauren Greenfield on Imelda Marcos and her film The Kingmaker
Lauren Greenfield didn’t know quite what to expect when she got to interview Imelda Marcos.

Imelda is, of course, a former beauty queen and the former first-lady of the Philippines. In her time there, she rubbed elbows with the likes of Chairman Mao and Saddam Hussein. She and her husband, President Ferdinand Marcos, worked closely together, cultivating a public perception as a power couple tag team.

The Marcos regime, of course, saw countless human rights abuses, the imprisonment and assassination of political rivals, billions of dollars stolen and a 14 year-long period of martial law.

In 1986 it all came to an end when they were forced into exile. Imelda, famously, left behind 3,000 pairs of shoes and abandoned more than one hundred animals she had exported from Africa. Ferdinand died in Hawaii in 1989, but the political legacy of the Marcos’ didn’t end with his death.

Imelda eventually returned to her home country. Today, she’s a member of the Philippine House of Representatives. And her son, Bongbong, is being groomed for a future presidency.

When Lauren Greenfield interviewed Marcos, she thought it might be a chance at a redemption story. But instead, The Kingmaker weaves a complex narrative. It’s both intimate and historical. A profile of a powerful woman as well as a critique of the plutocracy she is tied to.

Greenfield, who’s also a photographer, has made examining wealth and power her life’s work. Like her acclaimed 2012 film, The Queen of Versailles, which follows a billionaire family as they attempt build a 90,000 square foot mansion. Or Generation Wealth, a film about materialism and money in the US.

On Bullseye, Lauren talks to us about Imelda’s changing, sometimes unreliable version of past events, and how Greenfield had never encountered that before. She also talks about how a lifetime spent covering wealth has caused her to examine her own relationship to money and work.

The Kingmaker is playing in theaters now. It’ll debute on Showtime early next year.

Click here to listen to this episode on YouTube.

In this episode...

Associate Producer
Associate Producer


  • Lauren Greenfield

About the show

Bullseye is a celebration of the best of arts and culture in public radio form. Host Jesse Thorn sifts the wheat from the chaff to bring you in-depth interviews with the most revered and revolutionary minds in our culture.

Bullseye has been featured in Time, The New York Times, GQ and McSweeney’s, which called it “the kind of show people listen to in a more perfect world.” Since April 2013, the show has been distributed by NPR.

If you would like to pitch a guest for Bullseye, please CLICK HERE. You can also follow Bullseye on Twitter, YouTube, and Facebook. For more about Bullseye and to see a list of stations that carry it, please click here.



Associate Producer

Associate Producer

How to listen

Stream or download episodes directly from our website, or listen via your favorite podcatcher!

Share this show

Liked Director Lauren Greenfield? Listen to these next...