Rene Russo and Dan Gilroy of Nightcrawler

Episode 159

10th February 2015

Writer/director Dan Gilroy and star Rene Russo of ‘Nightcrawler’ talk about exploring the seedy business of TV news, collaborating as a married couple, and working with Jake Gyllenhaal. Nightcrawler is nominated for an Academy Award for Best Screenplay. Plus, Oscar-nominated film score composer Alexandre Desplat explodes the main theme for ‘The Imitation Game’ for Song Exploder, and Jesse explores beauty, perfectionism and ‘The Grand Budapest Hotel’.

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Dan Gilroy and Rene Russo of ‘Nightcrawler’ on Seediness in TV News, Writing a Desperate But Strong Female Character, and the Constraints of Independent Film

Dan Gilroy is the writer and director of the movie Nightcrawler, which is nominated for an Academy Award for Best Screenplay. The movie stars Jake Gyllenhaal as Lou Bloom, a video stringer for a local TV news program, and Dan’s wife Rene Russo as an overnight news producer, Nina.

Lou is an anti-hero, bordering on a psychopath. His attempts to build a career and establish relationships with others are charmingly off-kilter. But also more than a little creepy. Russo’s character, Nina, ends up on the receiving end of both the charm and the creepiness.

Jesse spoke with Gilroy and Russo in front of a live audience at a benefit for the film nonprofit Vidiots.

Nightcrawler is now available on DVD and Blu-Ray.

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Song Exploder: Alexandre Desplat on Creating The Imitation Game’s Theme

Alexandre Desplat is an Academy-Award-nominated French film composer. He’s written the score for lots of Hollywood movies: Zero Dark Thirty, Harry Potter, Fantastic Mr. Fox, and several Harry Potter films among others.

Desplat talked to Hrishi Hirway for an episode of his podcast, Song Exploder. On Song Exploder, Hrishi asks musicians to deconstruct their songs, track by track. This year, Alexandre has been nominated again for an Oscar twice in the same category, for his work on both “The Grand Budapest Hotel” and “The Imitation Game”.

The Imitation Game stars Benedict Cumberbatch as the English mathematician Alan Turing. Turing helped crack the Enigma code during World War II, but his achievements didn’t keep him from being persecuted for his sexuality.

Desplate broke down the orchestration in the main theme from the film.

You can listen to other episodes of Song Exploder on our website, in iTunes or wherever you download podcasts.

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The Outshot: The Grand Budapest Hotel

Jesse talks about beauty, perfectionism and The Grand Budapest Hotel.

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  • Rene Russo
  • Dan Gilroy
  • Alexandre Desplat

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