Episode 5: Andy Kindler – “And There’s One Guy Still Upset With You in Stuttgart”
Late again! But this is how it goes. I had an iLok/ProTools freak-out that wasn’t my fault, and I lost the file with Aimee’s intro and outro, and had to have her dig through her computer, find some wifi on the road, and re-send it to me (then me re-edit it), all of which WAS my fault.
This week we start out somehow getting into a discussion of parody songs for pets (specifically cats, dogs, fish, and iguanas); AND THEN we get to the main event: comedian Andy Kindler!
We recorded this right after we’d completed two nights of holiday shows at Largo in LA, for which Andy portrayed our Jacob Marley/Ghost of Hanukkah Present, and did the narration on our version of “You’re a Mean One, Mr. Grinch,” which is what he’s referring to when, about halfway through the interview, he sings out, “WITH ARSENIC SAAAAUUUUUCE!”
This interview winds up being partially about Andy’s coming to terms with his OCD and Anxiety disorders, how they affected his initial attempts at carving a life out in music before he landed in comedy, and how therapy has helped him greatly in recent years. No one involved with this is a doctor or psychologist, and the best that I can offer in terms of resources for OCD and Anxiety, is just a starting place: The Anxiety and Depression Association of America . I can, however, put a good word in for therapy. If you’re experiencing anything we discuss in this episode, and you can find a therapist you like and can afford, give it a try. Purely as a personal testimonial, it’s been invaluable for me. And speaking of what we discuss during this podcast, if you’re not a complete stranger to Aimee and me, then you can probably guess that we get into a little bit of our own stuff and how it relates to Andy’s as well, but what comes up again and again, at least as an adjacent “issue,” and yet we somehow never managed to name directly, is IMPOSTOR SYNDROME. I’m no stranger to that, myself. I don’t have any web resources for it, but in my experience, and as Andy says regarding his anxiety, it’s helpful to be able to notice and name these feelings when they begin to crop up. There ARE strategies for diverting the freight train barreling down on you to a safer track, so you can get down to doing the work you need to do, and I think we’ll plan to dig into that more in future episodes.
For now, here is the book that Andy recommends, Ellen Forney, “Marbles”.
Here’s Andy’s podcast with J Elvis Weinsetin, Thought Spiral (that’s a Google link that comes up with a bunch of options for “wherever you get your podcasts”).
Here’s one of those episodes of Dr. Katz that Andy was on
Apparently the jury is still out as to whether the voice box rattles your teeth out of your jaw or not.
Oh! And I NEGLECTED to follow up on if it was a horse that hurt Andy’s tooth, but if it was, it was probably the titular one from the film he’s working on, titled The Fiddling Horse.
That one guy ins Stuttgart? Let it go.
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