Episode notes
Alex Schmidt is joined by comedy writer Dan Hopper (Ranker, The New Yorker) and comedian Chet Wild (Unpopular Opinion podcast network) for a look at why the U.S. Forest Service is secretly incredibly fascinating.
Visit http://sifpod.fun/ for research sources, handy links, and this week’s bonus episode.
LINKS FOR THE GUESTS:
- Dan Hopper on Twitter
- Dan Hopper’s writing for The New Yorker
- Chet Wild on Twitter
- ‘The 90s Sucked’ podcast (Unpopular Opinion)
RESOURCES USED TO INFORM THE EPISODE’S LAND ACKNOWLEDGEMENT:
RESEARCH SOURCES:
- Natural Rivals: John Muir, Gifford Pinchot, and the Creation of America’s Public Lands by John Clayton
- The Big Burn: Teddy Roosevelt and the Fire that Saved America by Timothy Egan
- A Trailblazing Plan to Fight California Wildfires (The New Yorker)
- Resource Library: U.S. Forest Service (National Geographic)
- The Unsung Ranger Behind the U.S. Forest Service’s Iconic Signs (Atlas Obscura)
- USDA website: “Meet the Forest Service”
- USDA website: “The U.S. Forest Service By the Numbers”
- How Big Is Texas, Compared With Other Land Masses? (Texas Monthly)
- How Big Is the Great Pacific Garbage Patch? Science vs. Myth (NOAA) — argues that it’s not comparable to Texas’s size, because it’s multiple patches and it’s not one solid thing.
- the website for Angeles National Forest
- ‘The Big Burn’ of 1910 transformed wildland firefighting. Will 2020 do the same? (NBC News)
- How Fire, Once a Friend of Forests, Became a Destroyer (National Geographic)
- Tree-planting programs can do more harm than good (National Geographic)
- Prisoners Are Getting Paid $1.45 a Day to Fight the California Wildfires (ACLU) — written in 2018.
- Covid Limits California’s Efforts To Fight Wildfires With Prison Labor (The New York Times) — written in 2020.
- Gov. Gavin Newsom signs bill to allow inmate firefighters to work professionally after serving prison time (ABC7 News San Francisco)
- Joshua Trees Could Take 200 to 300 Years to Recover From Shutdown Damage (Smithsonian) — this is the January 2019 federal shutdown damage that Chet describes.
- The Triple Nickles: America’s first Black paratroopers and their secret mission in Oregon (KGW8 Portland)
- Why Harry Truman Ended Segregation in the US Military in 1948 (History.com)
- U.S. Forest Service Office of Communications: “Smoke Jumping Into History”
- Attack of Japan’s Killer WWII Balloons, 70 Years Ago (History.com)
Portrait of Gifford Pinchot (1865-1946):
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