Kevin Smokler on ‘Real Women Have Curves’

Episode 199

27th November 2025

The author of ‘Break the Frame: Conversations with Women Filmmakers’ shares his unexpected affinity with the main character of his most-recommended movie.

Episode notes

For his latest book, BREAK THE FRAME, culture writer Kevin Smokler interviewed 24 prominent female filmmakers about their rich and varied careers. One of those filmmakers, Patricia Cardoso, directed the 2002 movie that introduced the world to a 17-year-old America Ferrera: REAL WOMEN HAVE CURVES. Despite their surface differences (to state the obvious, Kevin is not a young Latina child of immigrants from the barrio of Los Angeles), the movie has spoken to Kevin since it first came out, and has become the film he’s most likely to recommend. It’s a perfect example of how you never know just where or how you’ll feel seen in cinema.

Then, Jordan has one quick thing about Variety’s new list of the 100 Best Comedy Movies.

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  • Kevin Smokler

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On Feeling Seen, writer and general enthusiast Jordan Crucchiola invites filmmakers, writers, comedians, and artists to discuss the movie characters that made them “feel seen.” It’s about that instant when a person connects to a piece of art so deeply that they see themselves reflected in it. Every week Jordan gabs it up with a guest about those magical moments when they were watching a film and realized, “That’s me!” It’s an informative, funny, and comforting show about our intimate relationship with movies, the impact they have on our lives, and how they influence our art.

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