Shannon & the Clams’ Shannon Shaw on Building Something Beautiful in the Wake of Tragedy

Episode 158

13th May 2024

After her fiancé died, Shannon got to work processing the grief and making a new album.

Episode notes

Shannon Shaw was on her way to check out an alternate venue for her upcoming wedding and then to her bachelorette party one August day in 2022 when she got word that Joe Haener, Shannon’s fiancé, had been killed. His pickup had collided with another pickup and he died right outside the fields of his family farm. Shannon joins us to talk about the pain, the loss, the grief.and the joy of knowing and loving Joe in the first place. One of the ways she processed all this was to do what she does best: create music. We hear about all that went into the intensely personal album The Moon Is In The Wrong Place by Shannon & the Clams.

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