Cheryl Strayed on Wise Inner Sage Voices

Episode 109

20th November 2023

The author of Wild and Tiny Beautiful Things helps separate the good inner voices from the bad.

Episode notes

We all have voices inside ourselves that give us advice on what to do in a given situation. Not talking about literal voices that you genuinely hear, just thoughts that you have when a decision needs to be made or something needs to be navigated. And those voices sometimes contradict each other so you need to know which one has your best interests at heart. Author Cheryl Strayed refers to her negative and unhelpful voice as her ITS, which stands for Inner Terrible Someone, while the one that’s really got her back, that makes her feel genuinely good is the Wise Inner Sage.

We talk with Cheryl about voices, her new television series Tiny Beautiful Things, turning points in life, heroin, hiking the Pacific Crest Trail, and much more.

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  • Cheryl Strayed

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