Episode 30: Jackie Stevens Exposes the Bizarre World of Immigration Courts and Detention Centers

Episode 30

5th July 2017

Immigration is such a hot topic these days, but it’s rare we actually get into the logistics of how the system works (or doesn’t). That why we asked Jackie Stevens to come on the show to tell us about the challenges immigrants face in detention centers and immigration courts.

Episode notes

Jackie Stevens, a Political Theory Professor at Northwestern University, has seen first-hand how detention centers and immigration courts violate every assumption we have about how a fair justice system is supposed to work. Contrary to many people’s assumptions, immigration courts are part of the executive branch, instead of the judicial branch like our other courts. That means they’re not subject to the same due process, like having a jury and requiring public defenders. On the podcast Jackie describes how the system can even fail U.S. citizens; she tells the long and winding case of U.S. citizen Mark Lyttle who got trapped in the system and was erroneously deported to Mexico. Whatever your political stance may be, it’s pretty clear this system fails not only the most vulnerable living in our country but even our very own citizens.

Adam is on Twitter @AdamConover and you can find past episodes and bonus content from the TruTV show at AdamRuinsEverything.com.

Produced by Shara Morris for MaximumFun.org.

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