Episode 172: In Praise of the Pope of Washington

Episode 172

25th April 2018

The team discusses the series finale of Shonda Rhimes’ much beloved ABC show Scandal and the female anti-heroes of TV history.

Episode notes

This week, Guy Branum, Karen Tongson, Margaret Wappler discuss the finale of the Shonda Rhimes led show, Scandal. The ABC series wrapped up last week and it stirred up all sorts of thoughts from the team on the female anti-heroes on television.

Karen is all about the upcoming Pixar short Bao, which she says is an important addition to Asian representation in popular media (which, let’s face it, is limited). Margaret is all about a recent article about parents raising their children as “Theybies”. Guy is all about the new film I Feel Pretty, a comedy that, while not without a slightly problematic message, shines through with plenty of laughs from Amy Schumer.

The panel will their discuss what they think of Scandal; everything from the finale, how closely they’ve watched the show since it started and where Olivia Pope fits in with the pantheon of women anti-heroes on TV.

With Karen Tongson, Guy Branum and Margaret Wappler

That’s My Jam:

Riley Silverman – Jeremy Jordan – She Used to be Mine

Karen Tongson – Joe Jackson – Steppin’ Out

Margaret Wappler – Sampha – (No One Knows Me) Like the Piano.

Guy Branum Kacey Musgraves – High Horse

Each week we’ll add everyone’s jams to our Spotify playlists.

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Produced by Laura Swisher for MaximumFun.org.

In this episode...


  • Guy Branum
  • Karen Tongson
  • Margaret Wappler

About the show

Pop Rocket is a high-octane weekly discussion of the culture we all love to love. Join host Guy Branum and panelists Wynter Mitchell, Karen Tongson, and Margaret Wappler for smart, funny, sometimes sweary chat about everything great in entertainment. Combining comic, journalistic, academic, and digital media expertise, the Pop Rocket team will keep you up-to-date on what’s most exciting in pop culture this week.


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